#Fdny department order iso#

Most engines have front intakes even though you lose psi in the piping. Out west just about everyone follows NFPA for apparatus so yes the majority of units have reflective chevrons on the rear. To try and lump all departments together and say we should look to FDNY as the apparatus standard is just plain stupid.

Some departments don’t have access to a hose wagon so they have to carry a little more hose. Some departments don’t have easy access to water supply so you get bigger engines with a bigger tanks. Many departments don’t have access to ladder trucks easily or rescue units so the engines carry the extrication tools. A engine in a manpower intensive metro city will look completely different that one in a more rural or suburban area. The unit is then designed to fit those needs and future forecasted needs. When we design rigs we have to take in account what they will be used for, the topo of the response area, staffing and overall cost. While it think FDNY is a great department they are way different then probably 95% of department. Īll in all, FDNY provides remarkable service, even if they're doing things a little different. These kinds of 'multi use' apparatuses are the jack of all trades but the king at nothing and are truly unacceptable in 2023. Giant fire apparatuses with 'Christmas tree' lighting packages are the result of bad design committees, poor department tactics, and municipal/county government politics. Quick shout out to Boston Fire as one of the few other departments that still does lighting packages right too (*Boston's Engines have an intake in front too so maybe I've just never seen that before as I've only ever seen a discharge on front if anything at all).įinally, let FDNY (and Boston for that matter) be an example of how small fire apparatuses can be and should be nationwide. Not FDNY, their lighting package still includes 3 mini bars in front and and 2 mini bars in the rear with small light pods places mostly lower on the apparatus. Most departments have fallen prey to 'Christmas tree' lighting packages. One thing they're doing that kicks ass is their lighting packages. Granted in the last decade or so that electronic siren is the e-Q2B w/ Rumbler but before that it was just the PA300. įDNY Engines don't come standard with Federal Q sirens (most Trucks/Ladders get them though)! All apparatuses only get one electronic siren speaker and a single air horn. Their Engines all have front water intakes (which makes since for tight streets but I've only seen fleets move from side intakes to rear for tight space, not front for the entire fleet*).

#Fdny department order iso#

If I understand correctly, they're NOT even an ISO Class 1 department!?įor starters, FDNY apparatuses do NOT have high viability chevron stripping on the back ! I thought this was a federal requirement or something! You're telling me other departments do high viability stripping on the rear just because it's a safety thing they feel like doing as a little added bonus!? They're the biggest department in the country and yet they're unlike any department I've ever seen.